First of all, thank you for all the replies!
We are working on ways to reduce IE or operate remotely, but everything won't be implemented for quite some time and we need to make risk assessments on short term operations. If that is to stop all operations until it's done, that's fine.
gastoor wrote:
Just had a study done? Our old switchgear was swapped out and our newer and has energy reduction switches on the main and also all of our breakers over 1200 amps which is code now. You might be able to use a protective relay such as
https://selinc.com/solutions/arc-flash-solutions/. I don't know the make or type of main breakers you have, but it you can shut trip them quicker with a protective relay, then that would be a solution. Most switchgear never get down to the level of live work, so disconnection is always your first choice. Hospital or other safety for the reason you cannot disconnect?
Correct. We've been asking for it for years, but studies have now been done by a reputable company. Our company has also done their own calculations and the results are somewhat the same. We have installed arc sensing relays in some of the switchgear, but all of them won't be ready for some time.
Petroleum fascility and loss of production is the reason they don't want to disconnect.
wilhendrix wrote:
A few questions. Is the voltage 440 or 480? Just wondered. Also, have you gotten good information on the upstream transformer? Impedance values as well as primary fusing. Consider looking at arc flash reduction devices by Littelfuse as well as other manufactures. This might be a better option. Also, look at remote operators for removing and connecting LVPCB.
440V AC 60 Hz. The company that did the calculations has been given all data on the facility.
JeffBlichmann wrote:
I don't believe you can distinguish between the doors being opened and the doors being closed unless the switchgear were rated as arc-flash resistant. Doors on switchgear do not provide any level of protection against arc flash unless it's proven that they can contain the blast.
I think your best bet is some sort of remote operator. I'm sure there's a lot of companies out there, but one I've used before is CBS ArcSafe. They make remote operators for all kinds of vintage of switchgear, panelboards, etc. Note I'm not affiliated with them in anyway, so hopefully this isn't viewed as an advertisement..
Thanks. Yeah, with higher levels I don't see how we can risk assess any work on these old switchgear. Remote operation is also something we have discussed and may be introduced as a temporary measurement.
wbd wrote:
This appears to be the real problem which is using the 2 sec maximum allowed cutoff time. Why was this used? Was it because to actual available fault current on the primary side, the primary side protective device and utility transformer info was not obtained?
It seems that an infinite bus was used for the fault current and then 2 sec used for the time factor for this equipment which seems be the service entrance equipment. This will usually always result in unrealistic incident energy values.
Do a proper study and you will find the IE values are probably much lower.
The IEC standard says it uses 2 seconds since that is a reasonable time in which they expect people to get away from the situation. The incident energy is also at a distance of 61cm since that is where one typically works. When the IE is 100 61cm from the short circuit, I don't want to know what it is in the middle of it. Nor what could happen to doors and the entire switchgear. Turning away from the flash doesn't help if projectiles come flying after you.
This is a proper study done by a reputable company.
jessman1340 wrote:
We have also done a study on older (1994 ish) unit substations, right on the tail end of 2500kVA 13.8-480xfmrs. There is a fused main breaker, followed by about six lower breaker cubicles with top protection/metering/control cubicles. The gear is not arc rated, so (per IEEE guidelines) I am marking all of the breaker cubicles and backside connection doors with the really high (~65cal/cm2) ratings. Now - I DID deviate from the recommended 24" working distance as this gear is really deep and the identified tasks (racking breakers, opening doors for thermography, etc...) would not bring you within 36". I am recommending they put in arc sensing relays, and consider a buss-differential scheme (but it has to trip the 13.8 breaker to the unit sub, not the 480 main).
My point is, review the tasks and establish the working distance, then train on it. Consider using signage to "Refer To Report" for other working distances (if using a multimeter on the 480V bus is allowed, for instance) then include multiple working distances in the table in the report - or posted in the switchgear room.
The working distance is very important when calculating incident energy, and it'd be advantageous to the worker and the electrical safety program management to understand the relationship and consider it as part of the risks for the identified tasks.
Distance is certainly an important factor. When the energy can be over 100 cal 61cm from the flash, it's a lot higher up close. We rarely get that close to the bus, but projectiles is also a concern.