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Author:  K. Jackson [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Breaker Racking Arc Flash Video

Zog wrote:
Take this racking accident for example, no exposed live parts here
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=995_1213752982


Does anyone know the details of this event?

It looks like it lasted several seconds based on the video time which leads me to believe the main did not trip right away. Doors open, tight space etc.

I guess people that moan about category 4 PPE should see this.

What are everyone else's thoughts?

Author:  Zog [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:55 am ]
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K. Jackson wrote:
Does anyone know the details of this event?

It looks like it lasted several seconds based on the video time which leads me to believe the main did not trip right away. Doors open, tight space etc.

I guess people that moan about category 4 PPE should see this.

What are everyone else's thoughts?


I think that was the main, so you are waiting for the fuses to clear on the primary side of the transformer which is typical.

Author:  haze10 [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:36 pm ]
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How could it have been the main? The lights were on till the fault so the main was closed. It looked as if the tech was racking out or in the breaker. If he were racking out the main he would have lost his lights. Guess it could have been a double ended sub. The other possibility is that he was on a branch breaker, and the Main took a while to clear. Mains normally don't have Instantenous functions and their short time delay is usually at the highest setting, plus you can often add delay time to the main with dip switches. The other thing I find often is that all the breakers are set too high. People don't realize how much impedence the utility adds for finite bus calculations. Historically, if we did do a correct fault study, we would set the breakers to react to expected 'bolted' fault current levels. Arcing Current is often 50% to 70% of bolted fault. So an arcing fault may be low enough to keep the breaker in its long time delay portion of the curve.

Author:  Zog [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:01 pm ]
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haze10 wrote:
How could it have been the main? The lights were on till the fault so the main was closed. It looked as if the tech was racking out or in the breaker. If he were racking out the main he would have lost his lights. Guess it could have been a double ended sub. The other possibility is that he was on a branch breaker, and the Main took a while to clear. Mains normally don't have Instantenous functions and their short time delay is usually at the highest setting, plus you can often add delay time to the main with dip switches. The other thing I find often is that all the breakers are set too high. People don't realize how much impedence the utility adds for finite bus calculations. Historically, if we did do a correct fault study, we would set the breakers to react to expected 'bolted' fault current levels. Arcing Current is often 50% to 70% of bolted fault. So an arcing fault may be low enough to keep the breaker in its long time delay portion of the curve.



Most plants feed the substation lights from a different part of the system so that dosent happen. The setting s that you find are always high are probally from the electricians turning them up after a breaker trips, some think thats what was wrong "The dang breaker was set too low" :-)

Author:  Jim Phillips (brainfiller) [ Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:36 am ]
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This certainly did not have a good ending.

Does anyone know the actual outcome or what caused the event?

It looks like the switchgear is medium voltage since there seem to be relays in the doors. It also looks like the person was wearing a face shield and maybe category 2 clothing but it is a little hard to tell. I agree it does look like it took a few seconds to clear so there must have been some really high time dial settings.

It is pretty ugly but it does show the need for flash suits when conducting work like this (although I bet this was greater than 40 calories)
It also shows how important quick clearing times are even though that could be in conflict with coordination.

Author:  L. Hankle [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:50 am ]
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I wonder if there even was a main? Perhaps these were all feeders? It does appear to be an unusually long clearing time.

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