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 Post subject: Responsibility for Energized Electrical Work Permit
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:00 am 
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I like to know if a person like a manager signs off on a eeswp and something goes wrong with the task like an injury, who takes the heat for the failure and working live? Does the company or the manager assume responsability for the task? And if someone knows the anwser where can i find it in 70e?
Some of these guys sign a permit without thinking about the situation.


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:26 am 
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You won't find a lot of explanatory material in 70E, even if you order the handbook...and that's where the explanatory material will be.

An EEWP is meant as an administrative procedure to invoke "management" to examine the task and the potential risks and to decide whether or not the risk is acceptable...basically, don't take the risk when it is unnecessary. OSHA has a number of letters of interpretation explaining when they think the risk is unnecessary. For instance, merely interrupting production is NOT an acceptable reason (and how the phrase "continuous industrial process" is routinely abused because there is no explanatory material in 70E).

At least in an OSHA facility, plant level management is held responsible under the general duty clause of OSHA law (not regulation...law). This usually means that the plant manager and safety manager and perhaps an engineer/maintenance manager gets to be outfitted with striped jumpsuits if OSHA feels that anything past fines are necessary.

You won't get anything more than a glance and a signature if they put production priorities ahead of safety.


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In my opinion, the electricians doing the work and the electrically knowledgeble person should be the ones who determine if the job can be done safely and if they are comfortable doing the work while energized. The managers would be the ones determining if this work is critical enough to do while energized without waiting for a shutdown.

The manager does not know if the job can be done safely or not. He is relying on the electrically knowledgable person to determine this.

In working energized, everyone involved, including the company itself, is responsible for their actions. In my experience, it is very seldom that everyone will sign-off on the EEWP. That means we wait for a shutdown.


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