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Author:  mnmurphy [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Overload work for hire

I am available to do overload work for your company. Arc flash studies, power system studies, etc. Rather than hiring another employee, hire me. I have my own SKM also. Thank you for your consideration. ;)

Author:  Zog [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:45 pm ]
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mnmurphy wrote:
I am available to do overload work for your company. Arc flash studies, power system studies, etc. Rather than hiring another employee, hire me. I have my own SKM also. Thank you for your consideration. ;)



What states are you a licenced P.E. in?

Author:  Capt Jim [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:11 am ]
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Qualified to Perform arc flash studies

Zog wrote:
What states are you a licenced P.E. in?


Zog, I understand the message behind your reply. So, Can someone tell me the qualifications for performing studies ? I think that gathering the data is where the expertice and accuracy comes in . Once the data is entered the rest is automatic.
Where is the liability going to go when an inaccurate arc flash sign is read and the employee is left underprotected?

1 The person performing the survey ?
2 The person imputting and retrieving the data ?
3 The person putting up the signs ?
4 The Company selling the whole package ?
5 The Software Company ?
6 They Employer ?

Thanks
Jim Becker
Electrical Utility Instructor

Author:  Zog [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:19 pm ]
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Capt Jim wrote:
Zog, I understand the message behind your reply. So, Can someone tell me the qualifications for performing studies ? I think that gathering the data is where the expertice and accuracy comes in . Once the data is entered the rest is automatic.
Where is the liability going to go when an inaccurate arc flash sign is read and the employee is left underprotected?

1 The person performing the survey ?
2 The person imputting and retrieving the data ?
3 The person putting up the signs ?
4 The Company selling the whole package ?
5 The Software Company ?
6 They Employer ?

Thanks
Jim Becker
Electrical Utility Instructor


IMO it is the employers responsibility to protect the employee from the hazards on the job, I would imagine the employees lawyer would go after the employer, then the employer would go after someone else. The study needs to be stamped by a P.E. ensuring it is correct, the PE's stamp puts the liablility on him or his (Or her) company.

Thats the way I see it, than again, I am not a lawyer or do I play one on T.V.

Author:  Gary B [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:28 pm ]
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Capt Jim wrote:
Zog, I understand the message behind your reply. So, Can someone tell me the qualifications for performing studies ? I think that gathering the data is where the expertice and accuracy comes in . Once the data is entered the rest is automatic.
Where is the liability going to go when an inaccurate arc flash sign is read and the employee is left underprotected?

1 The person performing the survey ?
2 The person imputting and retrieving the data ?
3 The person putting up the signs ?
4 The Company selling the whole package ?
5 The Software Company ?
6 They Employer ?

Thanks
Jim Becker
Electrical Utility Instructor


I don't think any part of this is automatic except perhaps the first set of calculations dumped out of a computer. Even interpreting those results requires experience or someone will confuse load and line side of a breaker and label the wrong exposure in a common enclosure.

I think the most important part of these studies is when mitigating the arc flash exposure by adjusting protective device settings. It takes experienced consideration to minimize arc flash exposure while maintaining system reliability. Several studies I've seen completed by others do not get to that part: they are content to declare what the exposure is and if unworkable, that is someone else's problem.

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