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| Author: | mountaineer [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | X/R Ratio |
Working on a large model that was originally started years ago by someone else. I noticed the X/R ratio for the utility used is 20. Actual info received from the utility is 5.5 for one circuit, 7 for the other. What difference should I expect in the study? My concern is having to change every label as a result of this change. I have seen articles recommending a value of about 12 for the X/R ratio when the utility doesn't provide it so 20 seems high. Thanks for any comments based on your experience. |
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| Author: | Jim Phillips (brainfiller) [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:28 am ] |
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mountaineer wrote: Working on a large model that was originally started years ago by someone else. I noticed the X/R ratio for the utility used is 20. Actual info received from the utility is 5.5 for one circuit, 7 for the other. What difference should I expect in the study? My concern is having to change every label as a result of this change. I have seen articles recommending a value of about 12 for the X/R ratio when the utility doesn't provide it so 20 seems high.
Thanks for any comments based on your experience. The X/R of 12 was in the 1986 IEEE buff book based on an example from the Chief Engineer at Square D in the 1970's. (where I worked at one time). The idea is to select an X/R that produces a large impedance angle. i.e. Tan-1(12) = 85.23 degrees. When the source impedance is added to the first transformer or conductor impedance in the system, they might have a lower angle than the source. This means that when the assumed large source angle is combined with potentially a lower transformer / conductor impedance angle, the resulting total impedance is LOWER and the short circuit current is HIGHER. (which is conservative for a short circuit study) In your case, reducing down to 5.5 or 7 might technically lower the short circuit current but I bet it would be such a very small amount it is not worth the effort. As far as arc flash, other than the extremely small change in short circuit current, X/R does not enter into the arc flash equations (yet). There is some thought that the X/R may have some minor (?) effect but nothing has been done as of yet. |
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