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| Author: | JeffBlichmann [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
Our facility has more 208/120V and 240/120V lighting panels than I could possibly count. I've been asked to run some sensitivity studies to determine rules of thumb for what arc flash could be at a lighting panel. For instance, we'd like to come out with a blanket statement that as long as the transformer is less than XkVA and less than X feet from the panel and fed from X fuse, the incident energy is less than 1.2 cal. I know IEEE has the exception stating less than 125kVA, etc., but it sounds like that may be changing and we're just trying to stay ahead of the game. My question is this... what should I model as the source for these sensitivity studies? I don't think I want to use an "infinite" source as that could skew the results too much one way or another. My plan would be to use one source for different kVA lighting transformers (480V to 208/120V) along with different feeder lengths and see how it affects the arc flash on the panel. Has any one else ran these sensitivity type studies to develop rules of thumb? Any big "watch outs" I should be aware of? |
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| Author: | Jim Phillips (brainfiller) [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
Up near the service when specific short circuit data is unknown, I have advocated an iterative approach. Begin with the transformer secondary current with an infinite source and see what PPE levels you have. Then reduce the current by 5 or 10 percent increments and rerun the study. The incident energy should go down but at some value of current it will go up – due to the current dropping below a protective device’s instantaneous. For small transformers, this approach may be difficult because the big issue is the clearing time typically defined by the primary protective device. The clearing time can be quite large leading to an incident energy calculation that is also quite large. The 125 kVA “Exception” was for this reason. It assumed an arc flash would not sustain so a low fault current combined with a minimal duration of a few cycles at most could be ignored as part of the study. Using a “typical” statement works for short circuit studies with small transformers, It would be a bit more difficult for arc flash studies. |
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| Author: | PaulEngr [ Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
First, did you consider whether or not you can even have an arc flash? Granted we have the IEEE 1584 "exception" which implies <1.2 cal/cm2 but we also have the IEEE C2 "exception" which essentially sets a floor of 4 cal/cm2 for 250 V or less circuits. Since 240/120 circuits are NOT excepted under the IEEE 1584 exception, this one is a little more relevant. A second caveat is that neither one is any kind of absolute exception...laboratory data exists that indicates that these "rules" may not be iron clad but so far no documented "violations" exist in the real world that I'm aware of. The neat thing about this approach is that while IEEE 1584 has an upper limit on the size of the transformer, IEEE C2 does not have such a limit. Although there are two table entries, the upshot is that if everyone is dressed in "PPE Level 1" (FR shirts and pants, and industrial "standard" PPE), typical of what they already are required to wear at most oil and gas, coal mining, iron & steel, and other similar "heavy" industries, there is no need to do further analysis. You will get push back from electricians but I can state positively from experience working in more than one of these industries that the PPE requirement is "survivable" even in the humid Southeastern United States where I live. Recommend that if you do take this approach and you do need to switch PPE, do it in the fall/winter. That way the transition (acclimation) is not as drastic for those who might be used to wearing say shorts and T-shirts as standard workwear. There was an ESW paper on this exact subject I think published last year. Basically we first have to consider the protective device's characteristics compared to the incident energy. When the device is in a "definite time" region, and this includes so-called "instantaneous" tripping regions, the incident energy decreases as current decreases. That's what we would expect to happen. This also occurs if the current is so low that it's below the device's tripping characteristics or if trip times get so excessive that the "2 second rule" applies. The tricky part is in the inverse time (curved) regions of operation. In this region it kind of depends on the slope of the curve. Incident energy can go down with decreases in current, stay the same, or actually increase. In practice it almost always increases. This provides two different directions that you can look at things. The first one is that as long as we also account for a certain amount of load-side transient sources (motors, cables, transformers contributing fault current), we can determine an upper limit on incident energy WITHOUT looking at anything other than the overcurrent protective device. This might be jumping to conclusions but I'll bet you can model the largest motor transient fault current that you could possibly have with a given device and get a pretty good idea of what this maximum value is. Given this type of analysis, you could literally just have a table of devices and maximum incident energy possible. The second approach is that if you do a very simply calculation including transformer impedance fed from an infinite bus, and again the biggest inductive source possible, you can determine a maximum available short circuit current. This gives a starting point on a given protective device's curve and knowing this, the incident energy MUST be less than the incident energy determined at this point and all lower points. There might be more entries to the "table" but again you could derive tables for all your protective devices that given a very simple napkin-math approach (ANSI based short circuit calculation) can determine maximum possible incident energy. The ESW paper is really good and the only criticisms I have against it are: (1) It doesn't have a table to save the rest of us some time (2) It doesn't include the effects of transients. I believe that this idea in some form (I've looked at it closely and it appears to be there but is tough to find explicitly) is also inherent in the "Flash Tables" approach, which is a little more commercialized. There is also a "boundary method" out there in a couple IEEE publications that is similar but only indirectly so. In this method the idea is to plot incident energy curves onto a time-current curve. If you fix the system voltage and a couple other parameters, you can easily plot a constant curve for say 1.2 cal/cm2 or 4 cal/cm2 and then by comparing to circuit breakers and/or fuses, you can select devices more or less "directly" to target specific incident energy results. So it is essentially the inverse of what you are looking to do. I know that the online software package "coordinaide" on S&C's web site specifically allows you to plot a constant incident energy curve on top of a TCC for some common distribution equipment. I think I've seen this capability before in other power system analysis software but I don't remember all the details. |
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| Author: | wbd [ Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
PaulEngr - can you post the title and other info on the ESW paper that you mention so others can read it? Thanks |
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| Author: | JeffBlichmann [ Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
I would be interested in that paper as well. I'm pretty comfortable approaching this from a highest fault current available standpoint with an infinite source and all that. My concern is the wide variety of situations we have around here. Our lighting panel transformers are fed from fused disconnects in MCCs and the MCC could be anywhere from 50 feet worth of cable from the source to a thousand (literally). Then you take all that variety and add in the variety of lighting panel transformer sizes, secondary conductor lengths, etc. If you look at short circuit available at the MCC, we have everywhere from 50kA to 10kA. I just seem to have a lot of variables and I need to find the best way to narrow these down while still covering all situations. There comes a point where you study so many "what-ifs" that you may as well have just studied every lighting panel individually, and I definitely don't want to end up there. |
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| Author: | engrick [ Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
Check out A GRAPHICAL APPROACH TO INCIDENT ENERGY ANALYSIS ESW2017-39. If you were at ESW (or know someone that went - it was added in the post conference it is also here - http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7914861/ |
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| Author: | PaulEngr [ Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
That's the paper I mentioned. The idea has been around but that paper is the easiest to follow. Effectively it just "inverts" the empirical equations. If voltage, enclosure, and gap are fixed, and we fold the TCC in, the only remaining independent variable is current. You can find formulas for ANSI inverse time curves in the SEL manuals among other places. |
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| Author: | SparkyFTC [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Rule of Thumb" Studies |
There has been a slightly updated version of this article published here: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8052570/ A couple of graphs were added, as well as some discussion based on feedback. Also, I believe that it will be published in the January/February 2018 issue of IEEE Transactions on Industry Applications. |
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