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Do you use an Energized Electrical Work Permit for Replacing Fuses?
No - we consider this “troubleshooting”
Yes - we create an EEWP for each case
Yes - we have a standing EEWP for this task
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:15 pm 
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This week’s question is from a discussion on the forum last week.

When replacing / removing / inserting fuses, do you require an energized electrical work permit (EEWP)?
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  • No - we consider this “troubleshooting”
  • Yes - we create an EEWP for each case
  • Yes - we have a standing EEWP for this task
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:24 pm 
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One of the clients I work with would put fuse replacement under a "480 volt troubleshooting" standard permit or the "24 volt troublshooting" standard, depending on the system... These are both energized work.. Most other places would call it "cold work"...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:43 am 
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If the task requires the qualified associate to install, remove or replace components/conductors, the work is then not diagnostic in nature and must be covered by an EEWP or the equipment must be placed in an electrically safe work condition.

In the vast majority of cases after troubleshooting we de-energize for repairs since we cannot meet the justification of greater hazard or infeasibility. Sometimes it is inconvenient; however, it drives better equipment design and safer work practices. We do however permit resetting circuit breakers, overloads, drives, etc. to be performed without an EEWP, providing that appropriate safe work practices and PPE are used.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:37 am 
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If you are replacing a fuse the equipment is not running. Therefore, why not just shut down the line side feeder, verify an electrically safe working condition, replace the fuse and re-energize the system. No EEWP needed for that.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:42 pm 
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cbauer wrote:
If you are replacing a fuse the equipment is not running. Therefore, why not just shut down the line side feeder, verify an electrically safe working condition, replace the fuse and re-energize the system. No EEWP needed for that.


Assuming you did some troubleshooting before just replacing it..Are you troubleshooting it live?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:00 am 
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None of the above

For the most part we cannot justify the need for an EEWP. Our real issues come in where we have fused switches in and MDP and we really don't want to shut down a building or buildings to preform a task that in my NON PE opinion is not likely to be any more hazardous than actually being in the room with the gear. To say that this work is hazardous is an extreme stretch in my opinion. I know what I believe the code says and we will continue to follow that until something changes but this is an area were I either need to be "schooled" or something needs to be changed.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:23 am 
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glen1971 wrote:
Assuming you did some troubleshooting before just replacing it..Are you troubleshooting it live?


Yes troubleshoot systems live. But troubleshooting does not require an EEWP.


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