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 Post subject: 3rd Edition of IEEE 1584?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:39 pm 

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Are there any plans for the next (3rd) edition of IEEE 1584? What would it include?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:39 am 
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L. Hankle wrote:
Are there any plans for the next (3rd) edition of IEEE 1584? What would it include?


We are still catching our breath from the 2018 Edition. Many items were left out of the 2018 Edition due to budget reasons. The IEEE/NFPA Collaboration for this project had an ambitions test plan with a proposed budget of around $6.5 Million. Fundraising was cut short during the 2007-2008 economic situation so the final budget was about half of what was planned. This meant many areas were left for a future date.

IEEE has something called "dot" standards. The hope is rather than starting the whole process over again, we can address outstanding areas one at a time with it's own unique "dot" standard. We already have IEEE 1584.1 "dot-one" which I co-authored the first draft with a colleague years ago. It is undergoing revision right now.

We hope to someday add additional dot standards for areas such as single phase, DC, higher voltages and other areas although nothing has officially begun yet. The research is a continuous process and we will all keep moving the knowledge base forward.

**Usual disclaimer: Although I'm Vice Chair of IEEE 1584, this is my personal view and may or may not represent the view of IEEE or any other standards organization.


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My understanding is that the first priority will probably be some DC content.

My personal desire would be acquiring data at higher fault current values, hopefully all the way to 200kA.

Both of these type of projects require testing few laboratories can provide and have significant cost associated. As Jim stated, this is expensive and funds are limited.

BUT keep your cards and letters coming to whoever you know in the IEEE working group. It is important that whatever expansion is undertaken it addresses real needs in the industry.


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Electricidad wrote:
My understanding is that the first priority will probably be some DC content.

My personal desire would be acquiring data at higher fault current values, hopefully all the way to 200kA.

Both of these type of projects require testing few laboratories can provide and have significant cost associated. As Jim stated, this is expensive and funds are limited.

BUT keep your cards and letters coming to whoever you know in the IEEE working group. It is important that whatever expansion is undertaken it addresses real needs in the industry.


Yes DC is high on the list. I have been pushing DC for years and a while ago it up on the radar screen. Single phase is also on the list as mentioned. Going to 200 kA will be quite difficult due to lab constraints. We were limited this time around. As I understand, one of the labs had some damage at higher currents and throttled the upper current capabilities back. It is also expensive as we all know. Stay tuned, it all moves slow but it is moving in the right direction!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:18 am 
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Hi Jim: Does the IEEE 1584 committee have any plans for higher voltage overhead lines? Like Arc Pro?
Thanks for all you do!


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Hi Jim: Does the IEEE 1584 committee have any plans for higher voltage overhead lines? Like Arc Pro?
Thanks for all you do!


There has been some discussion about extending to the 35-38 kV range for equipment but it is just an informal discussion. So nothing anytime soon. There is nothing about higher voltage overhead lines. Too much left to do at lower voltages first.


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