Goldenspark wrote:
I would like to open a discussion about re-wording the "Infeasibilty" clause for permitting energized work, Article 130.2 (A) (2).
This clause as currently written could be taken to mean that it is infeasible to make a live measurement with the equipment de-energized. This is plainly wrong, since the measurement could be made in a safe manner if the equipment is first de-energised and made safe, according to article 120, and then a means of making a remote measurement is attached, before re-energizing. The emphasis should be on only doing energized work if no other way can be found of doing the work dead.
I can think of two cases where it applies. First, diagnostic work. But that already has its own exception that bypasses the EEWP section altogether, and your examples fall under that section. So you are right, we don't need it. Second, light poles along public roadways. Those are wired up such that the door is bolted shut and there are only fuses and no disconnect to shut them off for maintenance. This is intentionally done so that some joker doesn't go along the highway and shut off street lighting. To de-energize, the only way to do it is to pull the fuse.
The exception that is given is for a "continuous industrial process". An OSHA letter of interpretation on the subject articulating similar wording in Subchapter S explains what this means and it does NOT mean what most people interpret it as (loss of production). An example would be where shutting off power would in turn shut down a ventilation system which makes it possible to do the work in the first place (controlling a hazardous atmosphere or controlling a hazardous location) such as with force ventilated enclosures located within a hazardous location. Working on this equipment dead may be completely infeasible in the case of for instance a gassy coal mine with force ventilated power distribution...loss of ventilation makes it a hazardous location.
However valid the usage is though, in my mind we can just as easily articulate this as the same thing as the greater hazard rule and thus you are correct.
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I would also like to see a tighter control of the Exemtions to Work Permit clause Article 130.2 (B) (3) for similar reasons.
I don't think it is acceptable to be allowed to make an energized voltage measurement, using "Energized Work" practices without the full work permit. That would then force people to find creative ways to make the measurement using dead work rather than have to fill out the permit.
I still have to make voltage measurements on PRESUMED live equipment in order to test for the absence of voltage, in order to achieve a safe working condition (de-energizing). Getting rid of this exemption would generate nothing but confusion and silly things. The EEWP definitely should NOT be used in this way. This is crazy. We did that ONCE at my current employer. We were generating dozens of EEWP's per day. As a result it became routine and then nobody was even paying any attention AND they started filling them out for basically everything, so we lost the whole point of the process in the first place.
The point of EEWP's is to create an administrative process which reduces the amount of energized work to as little as possible. If you dilute it by making it routine, people will just fill out paperwork blind and pretty much ignore it. That is where we ended up at when it became necessary to do one for every single electrical lock out, because it got misinterpreted as being required for testing for absence of voltage.
Also, note that the way that the thing is written, you really need to make sure that it is a PERMIT...should require fairly high levels of approval such as safety manager, plant manager, engineering/maintenance manager, etc. Definitely never, ever just a foreman signing off on them. You don't want low level guys making decisions that put people's lives at risk. But if you make an EEWP necessary for nearly every single electrical job, especially every one of them that requires LOTO, that is exactly what will be required in order to make the process practical to implement.
The justifications by the way got to be insane as well. The infeasibility rule was being abused by either putting down reasons like "LOTO" (which is spot on), or "continuous industrial process" (someone read 70E but misinterpreted what the FPN meant).
No thanks, from practical experience this is really bad practice and policy.