jmoore284@gmail.com wrote:
PaulEngr, thanks for your thoughts on this. They're much appreciated.
My response is based purely from experience being handed such a mess in the past. At first it infuriated me. Then I calmed down and thought about the rationality of why it ended up like it did and what I can realistically and practically do about it. During the next "go around" in terms of arc flash studies we actually reduced the costs and had very specific directives for the contract engineering firm which helped improve things greatly because we were all on the same page, AND I sent and intern around with electricians as part of his training to do a lot of the leg work ahead of time so that the engineering firm was most just validating our model updates. More of what a 5 year update should look like instead of a 5 year "total redo".
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In regards to the motors I typically model any motor individually if it is 50HP or greater. Additionally, if there is a grouping of motors totaling 50HP or more fed from a single panel I model them as a grouped motor load. As much as possible I model all motors individually as it is connected to the system. This is the only way to get accurate motor contribution back onto the electrical system which is important when analyzing the system for available fault current.
The single lines in the largest facility I've handled (over 2000 buses) are in an awful state. Every time a project was done, the drawing vault was basically a dumping ground for work prints and as-builts. So you could sort of make out every single stage of every project with the layers upon layers of conflicting drawings, when drawings actually made it to engineering. And we all know how that works in the real world. So the reality is that the power system analysis "drawings" are actually the most accurate drawings of the power system available. So we modeled each motor individually for that reason alone. But getting back to your point, up to a point simply adding up all the motors (basically, inductors) in say an MCC gives you the X' and X'' you need, up to a point. That's why the standards recommend adding motors together like I described. The error that it may induce is very small. Try it some time and you'll see it saves a lot of time, but it does distort the power system analysis drawings if your intent is to use them as single lines as I described. It's hard to find that "145 HP" motor in the plant.
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Finally, when it comes to the quality of data collecting versus funding available on the job I feel that identifying the arc flash hazard is a very important thing. If a customer cannot provide funding to allow the accurate modeling of their entire system then they should try to take on small areas of the plant and do it in phases. The company that performed the study has done the study once and now has completed two 5-year reevaluations. If the system was accurately verified/modeled years ago then the reevaluations should be as easy as verifying loads at all panels and identifying where changes/removals/additions have occurred.
Actually it's even easier. Other than reviewing changes in the 5 year window it should be as simple as reviewing a lot of "soft" factors such as quizzing personnel to evaluate their knowledge of arc flash hazards and doing a job inspection to verify how the work procedures as they are followed, reviewing any safety inspections being done for energized work, energized work permits, etc. and doing a "random" sampling of existing areas to verify that things are not changing. This would be for an arc flash risk assessment as opposed to an arc flash hazard assessment which would be entirely devoted to looking at verifying that the power system model and the actual plant are one and the same. Obviously the cost of doing so is as you suggested very modest assuming the initial arc flash hazard assessment was done thoroughly and correctly.