{"id":2701,"date":"2016-08-01T12:56:39","date_gmt":"2016-08-01T19:56:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brainfiller.com\/?p=2701"},"modified":"2025-11-19T09:03:00","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T16:03:00","slug":"ieee-1584-required-certification-for-productsservices","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brainfiller.com\/es\/arc-flash-forum-update\/electrical-safety\/ieee-1584-required-certification-for-productsservices\/","title":{"rendered":"IEEE 1584 \u2013 \u00bfCertificaci\u00f3n requerida para productos\/servicios?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>He o\u00eddo un rumor de que IEEE1584 ha vuelto a las andadas.<br \/>\nEn 2012 se pretend\u00eda introducir regal\u00edas por el uso de las ecuaciones. En este momento, tengo entendido que la Asociaci\u00f3n de Normas IEEE est\u00e1 planeando exigir una certificaci\u00f3n para el uso de la pr\u00f3xima edici\u00f3n de IEEE 1584 en productos y servicios, y que dicha certificaci\u00f3n exija un pago considerable.<br \/>\nTengo varios problemas con todo esto. Las normas t\u00e9cnicas son elaboradas en primer lugar por una serie de expertos, incluidos aquellos que participan activamente en el desarrollo de la norma en reuniones, etc., pero tambi\u00e9n por terceros que formulan comentarios en todas las etapas, hasta la fase de votaci\u00f3n.<br \/>\nIEEE1584 no es la culminaci\u00f3n del trabajo de una sola persona ni tampoco es el trabajo de s\u00f3lo aquellos miembros del TC, sino el trabajo de muchas personas a lo largo de muchos a\u00f1os, algunas de las cuales, como Ernie Jones, ya no est\u00e1n entre nosotros. \u00a1Querr\u00e1n registrar la Ley de Ohm pr\u00f3ximamente!<br \/>\nIncluso considerar un sistema de certificaci\u00f3n de personas estar\u00eda lleno de lagunas y el \u00fanico beneficio ser\u00eda para quienes certifican, lo que es err\u00f3neo en s\u00ed mismo. \u00bfQui\u00e9n certifica y qu\u00e9 lo habilita para certificar? Empec\u00e9 en este campo en 1993. Soy miembro del IET, miembro s\u00e9nior del IEEE, presidente del Comit\u00e9 T\u00e9cnico Europeo Cenelec responsable de este campo de actividad y contribuyo a los comit\u00e9s IEC, etc. Me molesta que alguien crea que tiene la autoridad para certificarme a m\u00ed o a otros como yo.<br \/>\nSer\u00eda un precedente muy peligroso. El IEEE necesita que se le recuerden sus or\u00edgenes y por qu\u00e9 se fund\u00f3 la instituci\u00f3n en 1884, y debe ser consciente de las posibles consecuencias negativas que podr\u00eda tener si permite que una minor\u00eda se aproveche del trabajo de otros.<br \/>\nDesde el punto de vista de mi Comit\u00e9 Nacional, solicitar\u00edamos a la IEC que desarrollara su propia informaci\u00f3n para distribuirla en una plataforma global; que abandonara el enlace oficial con el IEEE; y b\u00e1sicamente, sugerir\u00edamos a la industria del Reino Unido y de Europa que no hicieran referencia al IEEE 1584.<br \/>\nMe interesar\u00eda saber si hay algo de cierto en este rumor y si habr\u00e1 alguien presente en la reuni\u00f3n de septiembre en Filadelfia.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.arcflashforum.com\/viewtopic.php?p=19159&amp;sid=207f834b999a900df1ad5c19df5fd9ce\" target=\"_blank\">LEER M\u00c1S<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have heard a rumour that IEEE1584 are up to their old tricks again. 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